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Post by staymotivated on Jan 25, 2014 20:17:09 GMT -7
I am trying to get stronger for basketball. I am 6'2 185. I am not skinny/scrawny but not strong either. I can only do like 10 pushups :/
I only have a 20 pound dumbell and a 16 lb DB. And 40 lb weight plates (2 20's)
I cant seem to get any strength gains. Any help??
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Post by EliteBaller3 on Jan 26, 2014 14:40:39 GMT -7
Get to a weight room. Eat, do 5x5 or a strength based program, done.
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Post by thedougaller on Jan 27, 2014 20:43:32 GMT -7
^ What he said. Find a beginner routine (Starting Strength, a 5x5 routine, 5/3/1) and follow it religiously. Eat enough food to support your training. You're a beginner, you'll get strong and add size FAST.
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Post by staymotivated on Jan 27, 2014 20:48:08 GMT -7
How fast would u say id get results with bodyweight since i dont have a lot of weights.
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Post by thedougaller on Jan 27, 2014 21:26:02 GMT -7
I wouldn't even waste my time with bodyweight. Find a YMCA or gym, it's not difficult.
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Post by staymotivated on Jan 27, 2014 22:24:49 GMT -7
I just don't have a lot of money to spend on a gym.
And bodyweight wont help me at all?
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Post by EliteBaller3 on Jan 27, 2014 23:05:35 GMT -7
^lol he hates bodyweight. If your looking for strength then yes you need weights. I mean, you can follow a bodyweight program for a little bit but after a while you'll get to strong and just your weight won't be enough stimulus. No point going thru all the trouble if you'll just have to switch to a weights program in a month or two. Make money to spend on a gym then. There are a lot of beneficial things you can do with just your bodyweight, however, strength training isn't one of them.
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Post by staymotivated on Jan 28, 2014 10:18:07 GMT -7
Ok, ill try to get into a gym.
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Post by bballerforlife1 on Jan 28, 2014 15:54:04 GMT -7
lol bodyweight is the BEST you can do if you don't have weights, listen a pull up bar, adjustable gold gym dumbbell will cost you $40 at the most
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Post by thedougaller on Jan 28, 2014 21:47:46 GMT -7
Bodyweight stuff has it's place, and I don't mind adding some accessory bodyweight exercises to strength training programs.. I just don't like basing a program around bodyweight training. It's much better imo to focus your efforts on getting to a gym where you can make real progress fairly quickly as a beginner.
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Post by staymotivated on Jan 28, 2014 22:24:11 GMT -7
Ok thanks.
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Post by 2fast2strong2good on Jan 29, 2014 20:57:42 GMT -7
what the above posters said about doing a full body routine is true but at the end of the day make sure you enjoy the way you train. I did starting strength for a while and i literally hated it, low volume etc is not my cup of tea. Strength gains were decent etc. but now i train 3 days a week still with weights but much higher volume and im still getting more athletic. I enjoy my training now which means i will stay consistent. Consistency will win over any best routine you find EVER.
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Post by thedougaller on Jan 29, 2014 21:18:18 GMT -7
Hmm, while I'll agree enjoyment might = higher consistency, I don't agree with doing sub-optimal training just because it's more enjoyable. I personally don't like squatting whatsoever.. but I do it regularly because I know it gives results. I like results more than I dislike squats.
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Post by 2fast2strong2good on Jan 29, 2014 22:03:08 GMT -7
haha yup me and squats have a love hate relationship so i know what you mean. Jump roping really helps too, i've seen you do it in the foundation videos they keep you pretty reactive on the court.
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Post by EliteBaller3 on Jan 29, 2014 23:08:47 GMT -7
^While higher volume training has its place, make sure your still lifting like a basketball player NOT a bodybuilder. Bodybuilding will hurt your game more than it will help it but if you have decent strength go ahead and mix it up
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Post by shadowballer on Jan 30, 2014 1:34:26 GMT -7
Yep well said everybody. On the topic of squats I love them absolutely hate doing them but the results and the feeling of slapping more weight on the bar makes me feel great. Plus they are THE exercise for athletic development greater vj and faster sprinting. On the topic of volume work I think it's valuable after the foundation has been established. Look at the nba guys they are very muscular ok maybe not kd but I can guarantee he lifts quite a lot. Kd with more weight can work in the paint. Imagine that. Complete game. Anyway point is most ballers are ripped and athletic and strong in the upper bodies. I think volume will have a place for u Landon. Because most smaller players seem to be the buffer players. Because the short and skinny guards get thrown around most small guards are a bit stocky or strong for their weight.
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Post by EliteBaller3 on Jan 30, 2014 11:04:53 GMT -7
Yeah but i'll definitely build a strength base first. But I do agree plus scouts look at your body so that is another ben
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Post by 2fast2strong2good on Jan 30, 2014 20:43:04 GMT -7
I honestly think 6"2 185 is a decent sized guard. What bodyfat do you think u are ?
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Post by staymotivated on Jan 30, 2014 21:07:22 GMT -7
I honestly do not know FOR SURE.
BUT....I used a body fat percentage calulator (dont know if those are accurate lol)
But it said appoximately 16%
I need to lower it I believe
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Post by 2fast2strong2good on Jan 30, 2014 21:23:00 GMT -7
hmmm well it's whatever man dont worry about it. I watch a guy names brandon carter on youtube, he is 6"2 185.
As long as you are making gainz and getting better at basketball just be consistent
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